RE: Meeting Agendas and Organization

["Burke, Jason" <JBurke@lrs.com>]

I disagree with your first paragraph here. I think we have enough
people between you, Steve, Jeff, and I to give a variety of talks 
on numerous topics, and at this point a call for participation is not
necessary in my opinion. However, it seems like the only thing that 
were constantly missing is feedback from the general membership,
and this is something we need to address. In any event, I think that 
LUCI is going to be entering a stage where a higher level of 
organization is going to be more necessary if we are going to attain 
any type of goal at all (as to what that goal should be is still up for
debate, and IMO should be better defined).

Also, since when does negative == disinterested? I don't believe
that I said he was disinterested, on the contrary he was very
interested in coming to the meetings. I do not want to get into
specifics over his negative comments since I don't believe that
doing so will help us solve anything, but I would like us to consider
creating more direction for the group.

As far as what people want to achieve, I can probably answer with
some certainty that they probably don't know, and I think it's up
to us (the more experienced Linux users) to help them discover
what this operating system can do for them. Also, I think that 
we need to come up with creative solutions for getting the 
information that we need back from the membership without 
putting them on the spot like we have so many times in the past.
Perhaps instead of asking people at the meetings to tell us
what they want or are interested in (which sometimes doesn't
seem to accomplish what we want) we should pass around 3x5
note cards and pencils and ask them to write down what they
want for topics.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if things haven't worked
out the way you wanted in the past then maybe a new approach
will have more effect. Just something to think about.

Well, gotta go watch Futurama.

Jason

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Kara Pritchard [SMTP:kara@linux.com]
> Sent:	Friday, October 22, 1999 5:34 PM
> To:	'luci-discuss@luci.org'
> Subject:	Re: Meeting Agendas and Organization
> 
> 
> 
> Most of this stuff sounds good, and most of it has been tried in the past.
> Organization, interest, content, etc. will all be more easily handled, if
> we had more participants. Instead of just stating a list of topics one
> wants to hear about, how about if we post some stuff we're interested in
> *talking* about? Even if we had just one speaker per quarter, or one
> person do a 15 minutes presentation per meeting, topics, interest,
> content, etc etc will be much more easily acheived ;-)
> 
> As far as the person who was disinterested in the last meeting, I'm sorry
> to hear that. However, I hope he [and you] remember that the last meeting
> was supposed to be dedicated to Q&A, as much mail, mailing list, and
> direct feedback from people (from Demo Day, etc) indicated they would
> really like to have such a meeting. Only 2-3 questions were asked, so the
> rest of the content was "winged". It was meant to be informal, and the
> plan was to hopefully have people discuss (and volunteer) what they wanted
> to discuss for upcoming meetings.
> 
> We need to remember, we're a special interest group. The only way to
> guarantee success to have everyone's interest, is if everyone
> participates. That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone has to be a
> speaker, but a group is only as good as you make it. Suggestions are good,
> participants even better.
> 
> I'm glad to see the feedback, and hope some of our new members take this
> opportunity to post what they'd like to see, do, acheive, etc with the
> group as well.
> 
> 

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